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	<title>Comments on: Stay Away From Gimmicks Like Whole Body Vibration Machines</title>
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		<title>By: Di Heap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Di Heap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For readers who want to know more: Go to www.vibration-training-advice.com/ to read articles about vibration training, the real machines versus the cheap copies, the safety program, industry news and advice for trainers, and a forum for any topic that needs further clarification</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For readers who want to know more: Go to <a href="http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/</a> to read articles about vibration training, the real machines versus the cheap copies, the safety program, industry news and advice for trainers, and a forum for any topic that needs further clarification</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used a WBV machine in an exercise program offered at a gym and it resolved a frozen shoulder so I didn&#039;t have to have the surgery recommended by my orthopedic dr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used a WBV machine in an exercise program offered at a gym and it resolved a frozen shoulder so I didn&#8217;t have to have the surgery recommended by my orthopedic dr.</p>
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		<title>By: Sal Marinello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sal Marinello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I back my arguments not with the NSCA website but with legit research that is published in the NSCA - and other legitimate - publications.  Proponents of WBV can make all the claims that they want regarding WBV&#039;s efficacy, and even gain the support of visible and high-ranking individuals.  However, this is no substitute for research that shows WBV to provide less than stellar results. There&#039;s no research to indicate WBV provides benefits not offered by other, less expensive and proven methods of exercise.

Perhaps at the Division 1 collegiate level where money is no object, programs can afford to invest time and money in suspect methods. However, for people who are interested in expending money and effort wisely WBV is a loser. Spending thousands of dollars on a single machine that one person can use at a time is not a wise investment in money, time or effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I back my arguments not with the NSCA website but with legit research that is published in the NSCA &#8211; and other legitimate &#8211; publications.  Proponents of WBV can make all the claims that they want regarding WBV&#8217;s efficacy, and even gain the support of visible and high-ranking individuals.  However, this is no substitute for research that shows WBV to provide less than stellar results. There&#8217;s no research to indicate WBV provides benefits not offered by other, less expensive and proven methods of exercise.</p>
<p>Perhaps at the Division 1 collegiate level where money is no object, programs can afford to invest time and money in suspect methods. However, for people who are interested in expending money and effort wisely WBV is a loser. Spending thousands of dollars on a single machine that one person can use at a time is not a wise investment in money, time or effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 04:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sal,
I have written this once before and will write it again.  Cal State Fullerton has one of the NitroFit Deluxe WBV machines. The program director is none other than the President of the NSCA who&#039;s website you mention earlier refutes WBV claims.  We have no ties to the school other than we gave them a machine to test the effects on athletic performance.  I am confident that we will se positve results as they are due late in November.  Here in Arizona, the State director for NSCA has our machine in his pro-training facility in Tempe,AZ.  He has incorporated the machine into most of his training programs and loves the results.  It seems odd that you back your argument with the NSCA website when some members of that organization support the technology and are more experienced than you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sal,<br />
I have written this once before and will write it again.  Cal State Fullerton has one of the NitroFit Deluxe WBV machines. The program director is none other than the President of the NSCA who&#8217;s website you mention earlier refutes WBV claims.  We have no ties to the school other than we gave them a machine to test the effects on athletic performance.  I am confident that we will se positve results as they are due late in November.  Here in Arizona, the State director for NSCA has our machine in his pro-training facility in Tempe,AZ.  He has incorporated the machine into most of his training programs and loves the results.  It seems odd that you back your argument with the NSCA website when some members of that organization support the technology and are more experienced than you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest User</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried it? Oh and, where is your proofs of your accusations? Not your opinion...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried it? Oh and, where is your proofs of your accusations? Not your opinion&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am no professional athlete but work out a lot and am reasonably fit. I tried this powerplate thing and despite the best efforts of the salesman er sorry make that &quot;fitness consultant&quot; at the gym I was not convinced. The whole experience was unpleasant and afterwards I felt exhausted but that kind of exhaustion you feel after having driven for 5 hours in a car... I enjoy my exercise and the 45 minutes or so I spend in the gym every day is not just to lose weight etc but also gives me time to think and focus on myself. The dodgy scientific evidence aside - the powerplate thing is not my idea of a good workout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am no professional athlete but work out a lot and am reasonably fit. I tried this powerplate thing and despite the best efforts of the salesman er sorry make that &#8220;fitness consultant&#8221; at the gym I was not convinced. The whole experience was unpleasant and afterwards I felt exhausted but that kind of exhaustion you feel after having driven for 5 hours in a car&#8230; I enjoy my exercise and the 45 minutes or so I spend in the gym every day is not just to lose weight etc but also gives me time to think and focus on myself. The dodgy scientific evidence aside &#8211; the powerplate thing is not my idea of a good workout.</p>
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		<title>By: sal m</title>
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		<dc:creator>sal m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you visit the nsca-lift.org site you can access the feature to search the research journals. however, unless you are a member you will only get the abstracts. unlike the positive research touted by WBV hucksters, these researchers actually provide details of their studies and conducted studies with valid controls. the four studies mentioned were all published in the May 2007 edition.

the three studies that showed WBV to have no effect were conducted by independent researchers. The study based on subjects&#039; Perceived Exertion and Energy Expenditure is flawed in that the researchers did not include a control group that involved subjects performing squats on another type of unstable platform, such as a balance board. this blatent exclusion of a logical control group is illustrative of how studies are constructed to produce a desired conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you visit the nsca-lift.org site you can access the feature to search the research journals. however, unless you are a member you will only get the abstracts. unlike the positive research touted by WBV hucksters, these researchers actually provide details of their studies and conducted studies with valid controls. the four studies mentioned were all published in the May 2007 edition.</p>
<p>the three studies that showed WBV to have no effect were conducted by independent researchers. The study based on subjects&#8217; Perceived Exertion and Energy Expenditure is flawed in that the researchers did not include a control group that involved subjects performing squats on another type of unstable platform, such as a balance board. this blatent exclusion of a logical control group is illustrative of how studies are constructed to produce a desired conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest User</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you point me to some original research....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you point me to some original research&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: sal m</title>
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		<dc:creator>sal m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your experience and anecdotal tales do not serve to counter the research that indicates that WBV is not suitable for the vast majority of the population and certainly doesn&#039;t justify that people spend time and money on it. there is no substitute for movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your experience and anecdotal tales do not serve to counter the research that indicates that WBV is not suitable for the vast majority of the population and certainly doesn&#8217;t justify that people spend time and money on it. there is no substitute for movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My experience as a certified fitness professional for 16+ years, and current Acceleration Training certified trainer, totally contradicts your article debunking wholebody vibration training. The results that I have seen with my clients (members of the general public), have been obtained in a fraction of the time obtainable with a traditional training regimine, and with sessions ranging from 20 to 40 minutes two or three times a week. Like the old saying goes &quot;if you haven&#039;t tried it don&#039;t knock it&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience as a certified fitness professional for 16+ years, and current Acceleration Training certified trainer, totally contradicts your article debunking wholebody vibration training. The results that I have seen with my clients (members of the general public), have been obtained in a fraction of the time obtainable with a traditional training regimine, and with sessions ranging from 20 to 40 minutes two or three times a week. Like the old saying goes &#8220;if you haven&#8217;t tried it don&#8217;t knock it&#8221;</p>
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